Why do you think Christian counsellors and church leaders don't work together more closely?

Jay Mosser has served in pastoral roles for 42 years – about 20 years in various assistant pastor capacities and the rest as senior pastor. Through those years he has served in three churches ranging from smaller (less than 50) to larger (about 1,000). Jay has an M.Div. from Western (Conservative Baptist) Seminary and a D.Min. from Corban University in Oregon, where his doctoral thesis was titled How a Pastor’s Theology of Shepherding Affects the Health & Growth of a Church. Here, Jay answers questions from the talk "Three Gospel Anchors for Your Discipleship Ministry", given at the 2023 European Leadership Forum.